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Clarence William Withers vs Clarence William Withers (Professional Swindler) Sting Operation Ltd

23 March, 2021 by dennis 6 Comments

This post is a warning to the Taranaki business community in regards to what the locals call a “Professional Swindler”, a guy called Clarence (“Clarry”) William Withers from New Plymouth. Professionals and tradespeople of the region pretty much know of his ways, indeed one top official said, “That bastard has been doing it [ripping people off] for years!” but the root cause of his games is not well known or understood. It’s Autism (ASD), so to assist those struggling to deal with the aftermath of trauma with this guy (and to hopefully prevent further trauma) I explain it here.

Analysing the court case, Clarence William Withers v. Clarence William Withers (Professional Swindler) Sting Operation Ltd – CIV 2018-043-421 – New Plymouth District Court shows the world several things – the integrity (or lack of) demonstrated by top New Plymouth lawyers Govett Quilliam & it provides evidence of Clarry Withers’ Autism. The photos show the property in question, Clarry’s, in New Plymouth.

Over the years, Clarence (Clarry) has caused a tremendous amount of ill-will in the Taranaki region. Sadly the extent of this trauma is unknown to the perpetrator himself because he simply doesn’t ‘get it’. He never will either, because from my perspective, he might be the nicest guy in the world, but he simply can’t … ’cause he’s ‘got’ Autism.

Now I hasten to add that I am not a shrink, but I have had many years dealing with people who are different in this regard . . . people with psychiatric issues are unique – they are different. They are wired differently and think differently. Yes, I know that vaccinations can cause this, and indeed there has been a huge growth in ASD conditions commensurate with increased understanding of these issues, but if we put the details aside and summarise the mean effect of these ASD things, it is that people with ASD simply do not understand normal human dynamics.

They may be wonderful people in their own right – kind, giving, loving but deep down they simply do not, because they cannot, understand the finer details of life. I’ll start with a humourous example – Samoans. Outsiders laugh at these easy-going island people and how they will rise to physical violence in a heart-beat, then settle down into deep friendship the next moment. It is the Palagi way to engage brain before brawn and to hold grudges thereafter – once bitten twice shy sort of thing. Not so Samoans. Give a lubricated Samoan lad an insult and you’ll end up with a fist in your face inside a millisecond. But then when the fist returns, the Samoan is totally stunned, and cannot work out why the fight is all on. “Well because you decked him!” is the logic that totally eludes the Samoan brain.

While it is true that most Samoans suffer from this social ill that manifests itself in a myriad of ways throughout the community, it is a stronger, deeper and more sinister condition that Clarry demonstrates in our Western world. ASD can have massive consequences, and I assess that the Taranaki business community has probably lost around a cool quarter of a million dollars over the years at the hands of this dude. I personally know of $100k of legitimate debt simply written off by people dopey enough to get into hock with this dude but smart enough to choose not to fight him. There are several I know who have paid a high price for dealing with him. When they brave up and choose to take him on they’ll always win in court because the judges all know Clarry and judges usually all work off evidence and assess the credibility of those before them pretty quickly but the emotional cost of fighting a chameleon like Clarry is often a killer for most.

His modus operandii is to incur debt to tradespeople; generate a dispute somehow; threaten litigation and then to do anything he can to weasel out of paying his debts, even if it costs him more to avoid coughing up what he’d previously agreed to! Personal honour and common sense mean nothing to Clarence in what appears to be a game that he plays with others.

Don’t just listen to me – check out what this High Court judge says. Here’s the assessment of the HC Judge Heath:

[40] Having identified the basis on which the parties contracted with each other, the Arbitrator considered the value of the work undertaken. Although the Arbitrator referred to Mr Kay’s evidence as supporting that of Mr Stewart, it is clear that the Arbitrator had earlier rejected Mr Withers’ version of events. I do not regard the fact that Mr Kay’s evidence was consistent with Mr Stewart as being something that required the Arbitrator to provide Mr Withers with an opportunity to respond to …

Source

. . . i.e Clarry is a liar

[59] the solicitors for Mr Withers shall pay to the solicitors for BSC the moneys held in their trust account in satisfaction of the award. Only if any further moneys are payable can enforcement action be taken to recover …

[60] BSC has been successful on the present applications.

Source

. . . i.e. you lose Clarry, now pay up!

In 2004 I met a family at a Taumarunui church and befriended them. The guy asked for help setting up his business, which I duly gave. I liked him because he listened and showed me respect (that’s the key to getting my heart open!) and in the middle of last year in 2020 he again asked me for help. He told me that he was mulling over a difficult situation in regards to this Withers dude; that he went to bed with a prayer for help and awoke the next morning with me on his mind. That God-thing really gets my attention – of course!

Push came to shove and I ended up buying his company after I had done some basic due diligence. I renamed the company 2004 Holdings Ltd and over the next month or so I eventually whittled the company down to nothing. I paid off all debts or arranged for them to be sorted, sold its assets and then let the company lapse and be struck off the companies register. In the process I personally ended up with the debt from Clarence William Withers of some $16k, with a Small Claims Court hearing previously accepting a disputed debt of $15k.

So began a venture into the legal domain, and developed a sting operation where I planned to expose Mr Withers as the fool, crook and nasty person (bastard) that the locals called him, and that he really was. The sting was that Clarence William Withers would sue my company which would eventually be called “Clarence William Withers (Professional Swindler) Sting Operation Ltd”, and then forever and a day the description of this dude as a professional swindler, would be engraved into digital memory. Anyone searching for “Clarence William Withers” or “Clarry Withers” would end up seeing this page or the text “Professional Swindler” especially if they included the word Taranaki in their search. Exposure via Social Media and the local media could or would then occur as the people determined it valid from time to time. I lived out of town but was happy to visit or answer any questions as it suited those with any agenda to get their message out.

The sting therefore was exposure, showing how one crooked dude with an intent to profit unfairly from others had already spent more than his original amount due on legal expenses and causing him massive embarrassment as well as costs. Making this dude look like the fool that he was also appealed to those who had previously lost out to him and his nefarious agenda.

When the company matters were resolved to my satisfaction I entered into an agreement with the lawyer who represented the company to inform the court of two things – the new company representative in court matters and the new address for service. I did this the next day:

To the Registrar of the District Court at New Plymouth
And
To the Plaintiff
This document notifies you that:

1. The defendant now acts in person in place of Kevin Bond of Braun Bond & Lomas Limited, Level 1, 127 Alexandra Street, Hamilton 3204.

2. The address for service of the defendant is now 2a Para Street, Matapuna, Taumarunui 3920, New Zealand, dennis@dennis.nz.
Date: 18 August 2020

The New Plymouth District Court engaged with me over this but at the end of the day the Judge said basically, “Mr Smith, you’re not a lawyer so you can’t represent the company [hint: bugger off]”. The company had no assets nor any liabilities and was about to be struck off so I scratched my head over that one.

I could not engage a lawyer because as a Director of a company it is against the law to incur debt that I do not believe the company has the capacity to ever repay. As it had ceased trading and had a zero balance sheet, I did exactly what the judge hinted at – I buggered off.

Withers’ lawyer had failed to tell the court that the Defendant company was sold and that it was renamed and that I was by right representing the Defendant company as its Director and they actually secured a Judgment by Default in my absence. She actually didn’t know back then as evidenced by her admission that she only “recently” found things out in mid November 2020. Worse than that though, judgment was also entered against the old company name after it had been struck off which to me is a pretty massive professional failure on her part but she tells me that she did every thing right. Whatever. The court can sort all that out if she pushes on with the legal stuff.

So yesterday the company Mr Withers is suing was renamed to bear his own name, almost as if he is suing himself and we enter the next stage of this sorry saga. Withers has his judgment for a gazillion dollars which he got against a company that has nothing, but didn’t even exist at the time of the judgment. This all seems pretty dodgy to me, but hey I’m not a lawyer. Speak to the top-notch lawyer that I called out over this if you need a more detailed explanation of the legal matters.

The moral of the story is this . . . when you think you’re a smart-arse in business ready to take on others apparently less fortunate and not as smart as you think you are, make sure that you engage lawyers who are onto it and sue people who actually have something (like Clarry himself) – not dead companies previously run by licensed Private Investigative Bloggers who are onto you; who love a good fight; and who enjoy exposing crooks, crims & crazies!

And if you ever come across an odd-ball with human relationship issues, check with others around you to see if you’re dealing with someone like Clarence William Withers that shows all the symptoms of a serious dose ASD. They’ll be trouble, sometimes BIG trouble.

One of my informants who had fought with him big-time recounted the story that while waiting to be called into court, Clarry wandered in and started chatting to him as if nothing had happened. That’s a perfect sign of ASD for you right there – just no comprehension that others are hurt by your conduct. Totally self-centered, if they’re not selfish. They seem to treat it all like a game, but they will defend nonsense because to them, challenging their loopy story is to challenge their identity. Remember that they cannot handle emotional reality without it being a personal thing. This defense of the indefensible is akin to them challenging our faith or gender or race.

There are other clues of Autism as well, such as repeating patterned behaviour; an incredible focus on the unimportant; their propensity for massive instant violence over abnormal things; fixations on (to us) minor things (often called majoring on the minor) and on and on.

Sniff it out. Don’t try to rationalise it out. It’ll drive you bananas if you try to reason with them. Just let them be and go your own way, or if you want to play them at their own game make sure that you’re ready for a wild ride. You’ll win eventually, and they generally do cough up in the end if they owe you, but sometimes you gotta go through a wild patch until the’re cornered and then admit that you got ’em!

I conclude now with a repeat of the public warning, I’m certain that Clarry (Clarence William Withers) from C.W.Withers Ltd in New Plymouth has some form of Autism. If you’re doing business with him, beware and expect not to get paid without a fight, even if you use a third party escrow service and even if you do every thing you can to try to keep him happy! It’s not your fault that he never will be. He’s got the Autism, and probably created the BS, not you!

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  1. Neil Jamieson says

    4 August, 2021 at 6:57 pm

    I absolutely love this. My dealings with Mr. Withers go back close to 30 years. Obviously he has not changed and will never learn as he has no perception of integrity and honesty.
    Good on you for your rouse.

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    • dennis says

      4 August, 2021 at 7:41 pm

      Thanks Neil
      Glad you liked it and thank you for the compliments.
      No change indeed, and your comment about Clarry lacking in integrity and honesty is also exemplified by the current sting operation. One has to wonder though how Govett Quilliam can allow themselves to get caught in this operation too eh wot? Shame on their greed and more. I don’t think their reputation will grow positively from this mess unless they eat humble pie! My father is still around (born in 1929) believe it or not and one of the first things he taught me in business was that you don’t have to be ‘that’ good to be better then the rest! Glad you liked it. Spread the word and what ever you do, make sure that you don’t p*ss off private investigative bloggers with a brain, life experience and an attitude.

      Reply
    • uma says

      20 November, 2021 at 8:05 pm

      do you know if this guy Clarry is related to Withers coastlines?

      Reply
      • dennis says

        20 November, 2021 at 9:10 pm

        If you mean Withers Coachlines, Yes. His son runs it.

        Reply

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EVIL UNMASKED!! The Depopulation Agenda

In this series I have shared aspects of how evil is manifested. A major focus of this aspect of life is death. It is the … [Read More...] about EVIL UNMASKED!! The Depopulation Agenda

Evil UNMASKED!! The Solution

Exposing and explaining evil is only a step in the right direction. Having got there, one needs to know and understand … [Read More...] about Evil UNMASKED!! The Solution

Evil UNMASKED!! Power Is Shifting

This post shares the events leading up to the 2020 US Presidential Elections in which it appears to me that there is and … [Read More...] about Evil UNMASKED!! Power Is Shifting

EVIL UNMASKED!! Introduction

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Evil UNMASKED!! Divining Truth

This post uses two stories about the arrest of Generals Milley and Hokanson on 14 April 2021 to demonstrate the process … [Read More...] about Evil UNMASKED!! Divining Truth

Evil UNMASKED!! Confessions of an Economic Hit Man

Part of a series & book, this post quotes extensively from a classic by author John Perkins who self-identifies as … [Read More...] about Evil UNMASKED!! Confessions of an Economic Hit Man

Evil UNMASKED!! The New Confessions…

I quote here extensively from John Perkins' updated classic, The New Confessions of an Economic Hit Man and show how his … [Read More...] about Evil UNMASKED!! The New Confessions…

Evil UNMASKED!! Business Deception

Legion are the ways that evil can manifest but it is always based upon deception. This is why Christ's claim to BE the … [Read More...] about Evil UNMASKED!! Business Deception

Evil UNMASKED!! Conman & Hypocrite, Paul Bolte

This post gives more details of the history of a highly talented Aussie conman Paul Bolte, currently located in the USA … [Read More...] about Evil UNMASKED!! Conman & Hypocrite, Paul Bolte

Evil UNMASKED!! Fessing & Speaking Up

In this post, part of a series) I share the process of admitting fault and speaking up about evil. Generally people do … [Read More...] about Evil UNMASKED!! Fessing & Speaking Up

Evil UNMASKED!! Logical Failure & Cover-ups

If deception is key to evil then identifying logical failures and cover-ups helps us in understanding the godliness of … [Read More...] about Evil UNMASKED!! Logical Failure & Cover-ups

Evil UNMASKED!! A Living Christ Challenges

In this post I discuss the challenges that a living Jesus brings to those who deny or twist the simple biblical … [Read More...] about Evil UNMASKED!! A Living Christ Challenges

Evil UNMASKED!! Escape The Church

This post explains how the organised [Christian] church can be a dangerous place for genuine truth-seekers; not because … [Read More...] about Evil UNMASKED!! Escape The Church

Evil UNMASKED!! Understanding Global Geopolitics

Hopium, fearmongering, disinformation and human nature make a toxic mix deliberately designed to confuse mere mortals … [Read More...] about Evil UNMASKED!! Understanding Global Geopolitics

Evil UNMASKED!! Satanic Ritual Abuse & Pedophilia

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Evil UNMASKED!! Stretching the Rules

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I Fed The Baby

Media Release – I Fed the Baby – Confession & Motives in the Crewe Murders Cold Case

A book by the late Te Kuiti resident, John Ingley that claims to have solved the Crewe murders, will be available free, … [Read More...] about Media Release – I Fed the Baby – Confession & Motives in the Crewe Murders Cold Case

I Fed the Baby (IFTB)

This is the raw text of the book 'I Fed the Baby - Confession & Motives in theCrewe Murders Cold Case' by John … [Read More...] about I Fed the Baby (IFTB)

IFTB – Preface

The Preface of New Zealand Police CREWE Homicide Review of 2014, written by Detective Superintendent Andrew J Lovelock, … [Read More...] about IFTB – Preface

IFTB – Publisher’s Introduction

The double murder of Harvey & Jeanette Crewe in June of 1970 mesmerised the New Zealand public as the related events … [Read More...] about IFTB – Publisher’s Introduction

IFTB – About the Author

This chapter gives a little of my background, where I grew up and went to school, my hunting skills and what that taught … [Read More...] about IFTB – About the Author

IFTB – 1: Evils of this World

One of the most sensational and documented murder mysteries in New Zealand remains unsolved regardless of an innocent … [Read More...] about IFTB – 1: Evils of this World

IFTB – 2: I Fed the Baby!

Before my eyes I saw her go into hysterics, then she fell to the floor not unlike a person who is having a fit . . . … [Read More...] about IFTB – 2: I Fed the Baby!

IFTB – 3: Searching for the Truth

It was enough to drive any sane person crazy! … [Read More...] about IFTB – 3: Searching for the Truth

IFTB – 4: Chennells Family

Finding an appropriate position in the sand on where todraw the line to find a starting point has been one of themost … [Read More...] about IFTB – 4: Chennells Family

IFTB – 5: Properties Purchased

Newman Chennells arrived in New Zealand from England in 1911 where he had previously been earning a living as a land … [Read More...] about IFTB – 5: Properties Purchased

IFTB – 6: Howard Takes Over

Newman followed his real estate interests in Auckland (and Tuakau) which left an opening for his son Howard to take over … [Read More...] about IFTB – 6: Howard Takes Over

IFTB – 7: Land in England?

On the face of it the last will and testament of Nellie Chennells seemed straight forward, but only if one was not aware … [Read More...] about IFTB – 7: Land in England?

IFTB – 8: Was Nellie in Charge?

Using her birth year of 1873 Nellie Chennells would have been aged around 40 when she arrived in New Zealand and as a … [Read More...] about IFTB – 8: Was Nellie in Charge?

IFTB – 9: Demler Family

The Police initially had Len Demler as their prime suspect. English author David Yallop agreed and wrote that “the man … [Read More...] about IFTB – 9: Demler Family

IFTB – 10: Starting a Family

Len Demler certainly had his hands full. He had also started a family and was raising two daughters; Jeannette Lenore … [Read More...] about IFTB – 10: Starting a Family

IFTB – 11: Humiliation for Len

Life was settling down for Len but it was to be the calm before the storm. The years 1961 and 1962 were full of … [Read More...] about IFTB – 11: Humiliation for Len

IFTB – 12: At the Crossroads

Events were coming to a head between Chennells Estate trustees during the early 1960s with the risk of shady deals being … [Read More...] about IFTB – 12: At the Crossroads

IFTB – 13: Age of Eligibility

Jeannette reached the age of 25 on 6 February 1965 and became eligible for her inheritance of the Chennells Estate of … [Read More...] about IFTB – 13: Age of Eligibility

IFTB – 14: Common Denominator

The reader may have noticed by now that one person seemed to be keeping close tabs (and tight control) on the family’s … [Read More...] about IFTB – 14: Common Denominator

IFTB – 15: False Signatures?

Chapter 24 of Chris Birt’s book The Final Chapter examines the claim that Maisie Demler’s signature on her Last Will and … [Read More...] about IFTB – 15: False Signatures?

IFTB – 16: What about Heather?

Very little has been written about Dianne Heather Demler. What we do know is her birth date of 21 January 1942; she goes … [Read More...] about IFTB – 16: What about Heather?

IFTB – 18: Len gets Anxious

Len Demler was starting to show the pressure he was under and while he could see his future going down the gurgler for … [Read More...] about IFTB – 18: Len gets Anxious

IFTB – 17: The Heat was On

Brief mention has been previously made on the roles played by Maisie’s trustees, particularly Alf Hodgson and Colin … [Read More...] about IFTB – 17: The Heat was On

IFTB – 19: It Didn’t Start Yesterday

Most followers of the Crewe murders were only able to point the finger at ‘whodunnit’ from the information reported in … [Read More...] about IFTB – 19: It Didn’t Start Yesterday

IFTB – 20: Legacy of Greed

Maisie Demler passed away on 26 February 1970 and less than five months later, on 17 June 1970, Jeannette and Harvey … [Read More...] about IFTB – 20: Legacy of Greed

IFTB – 21: Opinion and Failures

The Police never worked out why the Crewes were murdered mainly because they failed to come up with a logical motive. … [Read More...] about IFTB – 21: Opinion and Failures

IFTB – 22: Inventory of Assets

The next major episode in the timeline of the murders revolves around the administration and management of Maisie’s … [Read More...] about IFTB – 22: Inventory of Assets

IFTB – 23: In the Days Before

In an early chapter I said experts worldwide claim that crime comes down to–99 times out of a hundred–love, hate, or … [Read More...] about IFTB – 23: In the Days Before

IFTB – 24: The Days Between

It’s now time to narrow the focus to what happened on 17 June leading up to the brutal double murder and of the events … [Read More...] about IFTB – 24: The Days Between

IFTB – 25: The Aftermath

Had Demler been telling lies and why was he stalling for time during the process of reporting what he had discovered at … [Read More...] about IFTB – 25: The Aftermath

IFTB – 26: Answers Well Hidden

The reason why the bodies of Jeannette and Harvey Crewe were moved from their house created a lot of discussion, … [Read More...] about IFTB – 26: Answers Well Hidden

IFTB – 27: The Murder Scenes

Detailed information covering the various murder scenes is readily available from other sources with resulting evidence … [Read More...] about IFTB – 27: The Murder Scenes

IFTB – 28: Len’s Master Plan

In hindsight, and in general, one can now see the larger side of the pattern in the fight for control of the estates. … [Read More...] about IFTB – 28: Len’s Master Plan

IFTB – 29: Leslee

I mentioned in Chapter Two that Leslee’s confession triggered my investigation into the Crewe murders. It’s no … [Read More...] about IFTB – 29: Leslee

IFTB – 30: Investigation Failures

In 2010 the Minister of Police initiated a Review intothe Police Investigations into the Crewe murders. Afterdigesting … [Read More...] about IFTB – 30: Investigation Failures

IFTB – 31: Whodunnit?

Events relating to Arthur Allan Thomas’ involvement, arrest, legal events and supposed guilt are preposterous and … [Read More...] about IFTB – 31: Whodunnit?

IFTB – Publisher’s conclusions

Understanding the events of Pukekawa in June 1970 cannot be just limited to analysing bullets and working out who ‘made’ … [Read More...] about IFTB – Publisher’s conclusions

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