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IFTB – 25: The Aftermath

17 June, 2020 by dennis Leave a Comment

Had Demler been telling lies and why was he stalling for time during the process of reporting what he had discovered at the Crewe homestead? He certainly took his time but there was a logical reason and it had everything to do with timing. I will be putting my head on the block by quietly revealing clues to the identities of the most likely villains . . .

Meanwhile Len Demler was going to find himself in the hot seat for the next three or four months as police tried extremely hard to pin the double murder on him. Without doubt Len was everybody’s prime suspect.

At least six books have been written on this subject and so far nobody has fingered who actually fired the fatal bullets nor has anyone worked out the reasons for this horrific crime.

I have some of the answers, much of it circumstantial but enough I feel that other professionals, with the resources to follow up, can provide the standard of evidence that will stand up within the legal system which I have previously mentioned is quite different to having a justice system.

There is no need to go there just yet but to keep some flow to maintaining some sense of the timeline, I need to continue to draw from what other researchers and authors have written.

Bearing in mind that the facts, as viewed by the legal system, can still be presented various ways but ultimately a fact is a fact. Finding what I believe are facts has not been without its headaches and loss of sleep. I have actually been to hell and back wrestling with the unknown and at this stage I am very reluctant to totally give up without first offering what I know and for readers to digest.

STRANGE THINGS THAT DEMLER DID

I have chosen some extracts from Ian Wishart’s The Inside Story (from page 27) that, to me, outlines the most of the strange things Len Demler did on Monday 22 June 1970 and over the following days:

“It was just after 8 o’clock on the morning of Monday, 22 June 1970, when stock agent Joe Moore and colleague John Dagg pulled into the driveway of the Crewe farmhouse. Swinging open the front gate, they hammered on the front door awaiting a reply that never came. Dagg saw the outside light was on but didn’t try the back-door. Moore had also tried the phone before he left the office, but no one picked up. If he’d peered through a window he might have seen the bloodstains, but he didn’t. He might have heard baby Rochelle, but if he did it wasn’t mentioned later. Instead, the two men left.

“When he got back to town Moore rang Len Demler, asking if he knew where his daughter and son-in-law had got to. Demler replied in the negative. The crusty old farmer must have been getting frustrated, however, by the time Ron Wright from Tuakau Transport Ltd called, just before 1pm that day. Wright explained he had a load of sheep he was scheduled to pick up from the Crewes, but couldn’t raise them. Demler said he would go and check.

“According to police notes from 24 June, Demler found both the main gate and a smaller gate to the home’s front garden shut when he arrived about 1pm. Although he didn’t mention it, Demler would have walked past milk and newspapers lying uncollected at the main gate since the previous Thursday. He told police he walked to the rear of the house and found the outside light on, and the key in the back door’s outside lock.”

To cut a long story short, Demler entered the house and saw stains of blood on the kitchen floor and large stains of blood on the carpet in the lounge. He then says that he checked the house for any sign of Jeannette and Harvey, without success, before entering Rochelle’s bedroom where he found the 18 month old in a distressed condition.

Demler’s reaction was bizarre and in a supposed moment of panic he got his priorities totally mixed up. Wishart asked the obvious question of why Demler didn’t first rescue his granddaughter from her cot, particularly if he thought someone might still “be lurking in the house.”

Wishart continues: “The grandfather’s actions in fleeing the scene, leaving a two year old alone and distressed in a bloodstained house, don’t fit with what most of us think we would do in similar circumstances.

“Nor did Demler ring Tuakau Transport from the Crewes’ phone. He decided to drive home, without Rochelle, and ring Ron Wright from the Demler farmstead. Adding insult to injury, Wright was out of the office when Demler called to cancel the sheep pick-up, but rather than simply leave a message and immediately return to the Crewe house, Demler chose to wait for Wright to get back and return his call.”

DEMLER RETURNS TO SCENE

Len Demler didn’t cease behaving oddly after returning to the scene of the crime. On his way he called on his neighbour Owen Priest to ask if he would go to the Crewe home with him to carry out a search for Jeannette and Harvey as they were missing.

It’s worth repeating a Wishart paragraph with words from an earlier interview Yallop had had with Priest: “Initially when we entered the house Len kept saying, ‘The bugger’s killed her and done himself in. I tell you Harvey’s killed her’. It began to play on my nerves after he’d come out with this two or three times. I turned to him. ‘Look Len, we don’t know what’s happened. It could have been a third party’. He was silent after that.”

This suggests murder/suicide, a theory that some others believed but the same evasive facts forced me to look deeper for the truth.

Wishart continued with the observation that Rochelle showed no sign of being starved of food or liquid for five days, a situation I was personally able to confirm from Leslee who had admitted to me in a situation of distress, some ten years after the murders, that she had fed the baby. I admit that I don’t know for how long or on what days she fed Rochelle though.

And before everyone starts jumping on me for not making these comments known to the authorities, I can state here that I had already been classed as a “nutter”. I do have good logical reasons and it will be through this book that the answers will be given in their proper context. However, Leslee will be viewed widely as an accomplice.

The main thrust of my thoughts has been to find enough facts to eliminate Demler from the gristly scene or to implicate him in those five days leading up to his so-called “discovery” of the missing couple. I also learned that trust in the police wasn’t the wisest course of action either.

SIGNS THAT DEMLER WAS NOT THE KILLER

Many will ask if Demler spent the previous five days preparing for the inevitable discovery of the crime scene and baby Rochelle or was it a complete shock to him? According to Wishart, Demler had showed numerous signs of not being the killer.

He wrote this on page 42: “Whoever killed the Crewes had carefully disposed of the bodies, left absolutely no fingerprints in the entire house, burnt evidence, tried to clean up and looked after the baby–tasks all suggestive of prior planning and organisation. Why would this cool, calculated approach suddenly fall apart?

“If Demler was really the killer, surely he would have grabbed Rochelle from her cot, dishevelled and stinking, and driven straight to Owen Priest’s house saying ‘Call the police, I found blood all through the house, no sign of Jeannette and Harvey, and Rochelle alone in her cot!’

“If he’d done that, Demler would have been the hero, quashing all speculation about his bizarre actions on the day. The difference between the cool chutzpah of a killer and accomplice who hung around the scene of the crime for days (and to this date have gotten away with it)–and the bumbling panic of Demler, are too much of a sharp contrast. Demler’s actions instead made him an automatic suspect in the eyes of police and his neighbours–a magnet for attention that was so strong he was almost prosecuted. “

Wishart also wrote that Demler’s behaviour did not actually fit the psychological profile of the very careful killer he knew must have murdered the Crewes. His thought about Demler’s behaviour during police searches aroused suspicion but were explainable.

“If he truly knew where the bodies were, then he also knew police had no chance of finding them on the Crewe and Demler properties. Yet here he was, metres away from police search teams, unseen in the fog, awaiting their discoveries as keenly as Bruce Hutton was.

“It’s yet another piece of the growing jigsaw of evidence that suggests Len Demler wasn’t involved in the murder of his daughter. His actions don’t match the profile of the killer. They instead fit better with that of a grumpy old farmer with dodgy people skills, who wanted to know where his dead daughter was but didn’t want to be the one to find her body, and who wanted to help police but became furious about being treated as a suspect.”

PAINTED IN THE ROLE OF A VILLAIN

Then the tables were turned as Wishart explains: “All references to Demler crying as he delivered Rochelle into the care of a neighbour vanished as police instead began to paint him in the role of villain. How did Len Demler manage to rub police up the wrong way so soon after one officer said he would ‘stake my reputation’ on Demler’s innocence?

“The best answer is probably ‘personality clash’, or what police refer to as ‘failing the attitude test’. In the context of a murder inquiry, detectives instinctively hunt for behaviour that’s out of the ordinary, that’s ‘suspicious’. Demler had already fallen into that pigeon-hole with the way he’d handled the discovery of Rochelle left alone, so when he started to get his ‘back up’ over the perfectly natural requirements for the police to investigate his movements, that was like sticking a flashing light on his head whilst holding a sign, ‘Pick Me!’ as far as police were concerned.”

BEHAVIOUR SEEN AS SUSPICIOUS

It’s interesting, as a crime reporter, says Wishart, to see how behaviour comes to be seen as ‘suspicious’ and directly relevant, even though it later turns out to be utterly irrelevant.

These wry comments from Wishart are exactly what makes this case so difficult to solve and sorting the wheat from the chaff is how I feel when trying to justify my comment at the beginning of this chapter asking why Len Demler was stalling for time and why timing was so important. Perhaps Len Demler knew he couldn’t be proven to have killed and actually wanted to be the target to take the heat off others and his ploy worked perfectly.

HAVING ADVANCE KNOWLEDGE

But was Len really stalling for time? Were there other more serious issues troubling Len?

Having knowledge of what happened almost a year later when Len, as trustee to both wills of Maisie and Jeannette, was dealing with their probates that a complex situation arose that could see him lose everything he had worked for.

This situation will undoubtedly be considered a definite motive for murder. Quite frankly, having a murdered daughter would have perfectly suited his apparently devious mind but having no body would have completely fouled up his plans.

Len would not have wanted his daughter’s body to disappear as that would put him into a position where he could not process her estate and deal with any of her assets. Jeannette’s assets would therefore be frozen until a death certificate could be issued by a Coroner. With no body this would be years, and potentially a serious problem.

It was critically important to Len to do what he ultimately did but there are still a lot of unanswered questions to deal with before the finger can be pointed elsewhere.

I Fed the Baby Book

  • IFTB - Post - Let's Go!
  • IFTB - Intro
  • IFTB - Preface
  • IFTB - Publisher’s Introduction
  • IFTB - About the Author
  • IFTB - 1: Evils of this World
  • IFTB - 2: I Fed the Baby!
  • IFTB - 3: Searching for the Truth
  • IFTB - 4: Chennells Family
  • IFTB - 5: Properties Purchased
  • IFTB - 6: Howard Takes Over
  • IFTB - 7: Land in England?
  • IFTB - 8: Was Nellie in Charge?
  • IFTB - 9: Demler Family
  • IFTB - 10: Starting a Family
  • IFTB - 11: Humiliation for Len
  • IFTB - 12: At the Crossroads
  • IFTB - 13: Age of Eligibility
  • IFTB - 14: Common Denominator
  • IFTB - 15: False Signatures?
  • IFTB - 16: What about Heather?
  • IFTB - 17: The Heat was On
  • IFTB - 18: Len gets Anxious
  • IFTB - 19: It Didn’t Start Yesterday
  • IFTB - 20: Legacy of Greed
  • IFTB - 21: Opinion and Failures
  • IFTB - 22: Inventory of Assets
  • IFTB - 23: In the Days Before
  • IFTB - 24: The Days Between
  • IFTB - 25: The Aftermath
  • IFTB - 26: Answers Well Hidden
  • IFTB - 27: The Murder Scenes
  • IFTB - 28: Len’s Master Plan
  • IFTB - 29: Leslee
  • IFTB - 30: Investigation Failures
  • IFTB - 31: Whodunnit?
  • IFTB - Publisher’s conclusions
  • IFTB - The whole book in PDF format
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I quote here extensively from John Perkins' updated classic, The New Confessions of an Economic Hit Man and show how his … [Read More...] about Evil UNMASKED!! The New Confessions…

Evil UNMASKED!! Business Deception

Legion are the ways that evil can manifest but it is always based upon deception. This is why Christ's claim to BE the … [Read More...] about Evil UNMASKED!! Business Deception

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This post gives more details of the history of a highly talented Aussie conman Paul Bolte, currently located in the USA … [Read More...] about Evil UNMASKED!! Conman & Hypocrite, Paul Bolte

Evil UNMASKED!! Fessing & Speaking Up

In this post, part of a series) I share the process of admitting fault and speaking up about evil. Generally people do … [Read More...] about Evil UNMASKED!! Fessing & Speaking Up

Evil UNMASKED!! Logical Failure & Cover-ups

If deception is key to evil then identifying logical failures and cover-ups helps us in understanding the godliness of … [Read More...] about Evil UNMASKED!! Logical Failure & Cover-ups

Evil UNMASKED!! A Living Christ Challenges

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Evil UNMASKED!! Escape The Church

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I Fed The Baby

Media Release – I Fed the Baby – Confession & Motives in the Crewe Murders Cold Case

A book by the late Te Kuiti resident, John Ingley that claims to have solved the Crewe murders, will be available free, … [Read More...] about Media Release – I Fed the Baby – Confession & Motives in the Crewe Murders Cold Case

I Fed the Baby (IFTB)

This is the raw text of the book 'I Fed the Baby - Confession & Motives in theCrewe Murders Cold Case' by John … [Read More...] about I Fed the Baby (IFTB)

IFTB – Preface

The Preface of New Zealand Police CREWE Homicide Review of 2014, written by Detective Superintendent Andrew J Lovelock, … [Read More...] about IFTB – Preface

IFTB – Publisher’s Introduction

The double murder of Harvey & Jeanette Crewe in June of 1970 mesmerised the New Zealand public as the related events … [Read More...] about IFTB – Publisher’s Introduction

IFTB – About the Author

This chapter gives a little of my background, where I grew up and went to school, my hunting skills and what that taught … [Read More...] about IFTB – About the Author

IFTB – 1: Evils of this World

One of the most sensational and documented murder mysteries in New Zealand remains unsolved regardless of an innocent … [Read More...] about IFTB – 1: Evils of this World

IFTB – 2: I Fed the Baby!

Before my eyes I saw her go into hysterics, then she fell to the floor not unlike a person who is having a fit . . . … [Read More...] about IFTB – 2: I Fed the Baby!

IFTB – 3: Searching for the Truth

It was enough to drive any sane person crazy! … [Read More...] about IFTB – 3: Searching for the Truth

IFTB – 4: Chennells Family

Finding an appropriate position in the sand on where todraw the line to find a starting point has been one of themost … [Read More...] about IFTB – 4: Chennells Family

IFTB – 5: Properties Purchased

Newman Chennells arrived in New Zealand from England in 1911 where he had previously been earning a living as a land … [Read More...] about IFTB – 5: Properties Purchased

IFTB – 6: Howard Takes Over

Newman followed his real estate interests in Auckland (and Tuakau) which left an opening for his son Howard to take over … [Read More...] about IFTB – 6: Howard Takes Over

IFTB – 7: Land in England?

On the face of it the last will and testament of Nellie Chennells seemed straight forward, but only if one was not aware … [Read More...] about IFTB – 7: Land in England?

IFTB – 8: Was Nellie in Charge?

Using her birth year of 1873 Nellie Chennells would have been aged around 40 when she arrived in New Zealand and as a … [Read More...] about IFTB – 8: Was Nellie in Charge?

IFTB – 9: Demler Family

The Police initially had Len Demler as their prime suspect. English author David Yallop agreed and wrote that “the man … [Read More...] about IFTB – 9: Demler Family

IFTB – 10: Starting a Family

Len Demler certainly had his hands full. He had also started a family and was raising two daughters; Jeannette Lenore … [Read More...] about IFTB – 10: Starting a Family

IFTB – 11: Humiliation for Len

Life was settling down for Len but it was to be the calm before the storm. The years 1961 and 1962 were full of … [Read More...] about IFTB – 11: Humiliation for Len

IFTB – 12: At the Crossroads

Events were coming to a head between Chennells Estate trustees during the early 1960s with the risk of shady deals being … [Read More...] about IFTB – 12: At the Crossroads

IFTB – 13: Age of Eligibility

Jeannette reached the age of 25 on 6 February 1965 and became eligible for her inheritance of the Chennells Estate of … [Read More...] about IFTB – 13: Age of Eligibility

IFTB – 14: Common Denominator

The reader may have noticed by now that one person seemed to be keeping close tabs (and tight control) on the family’s … [Read More...] about IFTB – 14: Common Denominator

IFTB – 15: False Signatures?

Chapter 24 of Chris Birt’s book The Final Chapter examines the claim that Maisie Demler’s signature on her Last Will and … [Read More...] about IFTB – 15: False Signatures?

IFTB – 16: What about Heather?

Very little has been written about Dianne Heather Demler. What we do know is her birth date of 21 January 1942; she goes … [Read More...] about IFTB – 16: What about Heather?

IFTB – 18: Len gets Anxious

Len Demler was starting to show the pressure he was under and while he could see his future going down the gurgler for … [Read More...] about IFTB – 18: Len gets Anxious

IFTB – 17: The Heat was On

Brief mention has been previously made on the roles played by Maisie’s trustees, particularly Alf Hodgson and Colin … [Read More...] about IFTB – 17: The Heat was On

IFTB – 19: It Didn’t Start Yesterday

Most followers of the Crewe murders were only able to point the finger at ‘whodunnit’ from the information reported in … [Read More...] about IFTB – 19: It Didn’t Start Yesterday

IFTB – 20: Legacy of Greed

Maisie Demler passed away on 26 February 1970 and less than five months later, on 17 June 1970, Jeannette and Harvey … [Read More...] about IFTB – 20: Legacy of Greed

IFTB – 21: Opinion and Failures

The Police never worked out why the Crewes were murdered mainly because they failed to come up with a logical motive. … [Read More...] about IFTB – 21: Opinion and Failures

IFTB – 22: Inventory of Assets

The next major episode in the timeline of the murders revolves around the administration and management of Maisie’s … [Read More...] about IFTB – 22: Inventory of Assets

IFTB – 23: In the Days Before

In an early chapter I said experts worldwide claim that crime comes down to–99 times out of a hundred–love, hate, or … [Read More...] about IFTB – 23: In the Days Before

IFTB – 24: The Days Between

It’s now time to narrow the focus to what happened on 17 June leading up to the brutal double murder and of the events … [Read More...] about IFTB – 24: The Days Between

IFTB – 25: The Aftermath

Had Demler been telling lies and why was he stalling for time during the process of reporting what he had discovered at … [Read More...] about IFTB – 25: The Aftermath

IFTB – 26: Answers Well Hidden

The reason why the bodies of Jeannette and Harvey Crewe were moved from their house created a lot of discussion, … [Read More...] about IFTB – 26: Answers Well Hidden

IFTB – 27: The Murder Scenes

Detailed information covering the various murder scenes is readily available from other sources with resulting evidence … [Read More...] about IFTB – 27: The Murder Scenes

IFTB – 28: Len’s Master Plan

In hindsight, and in general, one can now see the larger side of the pattern in the fight for control of the estates. … [Read More...] about IFTB – 28: Len’s Master Plan

IFTB – 29: Leslee

I mentioned in Chapter Two that Leslee’s confession triggered my investigation into the Crewe murders. It’s no … [Read More...] about IFTB – 29: Leslee

IFTB – 30: Investigation Failures

In 2010 the Minister of Police initiated a Review intothe Police Investigations into the Crewe murders. Afterdigesting … [Read More...] about IFTB – 30: Investigation Failures

IFTB – 31: Whodunnit?

Events relating to Arthur Allan Thomas’ involvement, arrest, legal events and supposed guilt are preposterous and … [Read More...] about IFTB – 31: Whodunnit?

IFTB – Publisher’s conclusions

Understanding the events of Pukekawa in June 1970 cannot be just limited to analysing bullets and working out who ‘made’ … [Read More...] about IFTB – Publisher’s conclusions

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